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A New Hampshire mother was asked to leave a church service as a result of her disabled daughter making too much noise. Do you agree with the church’s decision?

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legendkiller34 read my blog
Jun 20, 2007 | 1:42 PM

what types of noise's were being made?
How did the people who asked her to leave,
know she wasn't singing or praying.
If the people who were that concerned about the interuption had been paying more attention to the reason 's they were there, they would never have heard the so called interuption.

AndreaJ
Jun 20, 2007 | 2:17 PM

How very sad. Aren't we all God's children and aren't we all welcome in His house? I'm sure the people who complained were not bothered by the noise, but by the fact that the child was disabled. This seems to make lots of folks uncomfortable. This is a very sad, unacceptable situation. No, they should not have been asked to leave. The complainer should have left.

JustinFranklin read my blog
Jun 20, 2007 | 2:28 PM

If the noise was too loud for those in the church to hear, or she was disrupting service by being completely outrageous/obnoxious. Then I too would vote to have the child removed.
It isn't whether or not she is disabled.. it is the interuptions in service that would irk me.
Like going to a restaurant to have a nice peaceful meal at 7'ish or later, just to have a family with noisy kids come in.. I would then tell the waitress how annoying it is, then ask her to do something.. if nothing is done and she (waitress) ignores my request.. then I'd leave my two cents (tip) and leave.

shawnagirard read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2007 | 2:33 PM

I am mortified that someone could kick a disabled child out of church,what has the world come to hah?? what is wrong with you people? think before you do thats what my parents always taught me.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2007 | 2:49 PM

My Mother-in-law's church in Oklahoma City (the beautiful Lutheran church that had t be rebuilt after the bombing of the Mura Bldg.) has a "nursery" at the back of the main santuary. It was a room with a big glass wall, and a speaker system where mother could go with children, so that the noise the children made didn't bother the service, and the children (and mothers) could recieve the benefit of prayer. But this was built after the church had to completely be rebuilt, and parishoners were bound and determined to build the nicest church....they just had greater spirit than terrorists.

This is a problem that defies simple answers.

MARepublican1 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2007 | 5:35 PM

There are certain issues with children and the disabled that just can not be controlled. This should never be a reason do disallow a person from practicing their faith the same as anyone else in their church.

This is not a church I would want to belong to. Very sad indeed.

jettmann
Jun 20, 2007 | 5:35 PM

The parishoners are trying to concentrate on what the pastor is saying. We all feel for the child who has a disability, but there are also children not disabled who just make noise in church and their parents generally are considerate enough to take the child outside. Is this really an issue of the childs noise or the parent of the child trying to make a personal statement about staying put in church for her own reasons.

ron_mexico read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2007 | 5:51 PM

which is the issue here; that she was disabled, or that she was making noise?

I don't think they should have kicked her out, but her parents should have taken some responsibility in keeping her quiet, if they took her outside and gave her some time to calm down maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Katprowl17
Jun 20, 2007 | 7:06 PM

I am a mom of three and I have had plenty of times when I was in church and I have had to talk to my children about their not paying attention and being distracting to others around....that is a part of life and to those of you that had a problem get over it....kids will be kids and this poor child had a disablity which makes it even worst for what was done....you should be praying harder for that child not kicking her to the curb!! We wonder why people don't have faith to go to church anymore!

right2vote read my blog
Jun 20, 2007 | 9:29 PM

Does anyone know specific details on what the noise was? If it was horrendous screaming and yelling, then yes she should leave, but if it was something quieter than that then people should either sit up front or leave if it bothers them that badly.

AtiredLegalAmerican read my blog
Jun 20, 2007 | 9:59 PM

I think that the child should be removed.When in church you have to respect the congrugation and why they are there.If the child was continously making noises that everone could hear then by all means ask them to leave.When you are listening to the sermon or in prayer you do not want to be disturbed,and should not be.That is my time to pray and reflect.Say good_bye.

Thank_You

JustinFranklin read my blog
Jun 20, 2007 | 10:20 PM

I know the last time I went to the church of hypocricy .. about 20-25 years ago..there were kids acting up close by.. I just stared at the parents and they took the child outside.
That IS the responsible thing one should do, being CONSIDERATE to others especially when you happen to be the one causing the noise, and when other people ARE trying to concentrate, you are definately out numbered.
Whether it be a disabled child or not.
This is what is wrong today.. people try to blame others (this woman) for the actions for which they are responsible for. Next the ACLU or Gloria All Purple will be in on the act.
Consideration, Responsibility, and Respect for others ... is this not what a moral person should be like? Whether it be a christian moral, or common sense.. where is the damn logic today?

Brunfam3
Jun 20, 2007 | 10:20 PM

As a mother of a disabled 3.5 year old, I am COMPLETEY OUTRAGED this happened. What people don't understand is that these kids aren't typical kids. You can't "Control" them like you can other children. But they shouldn't be removed because they are singing in their own way. When they are excited, they have no other means of showing it! The folks in the church need to spend just one day with a child with disabilities to see that it isn't that easy to say "be quiet."

I had given up faith when my son was born. This story just solidifies that loss. HOW SAD!!!

AmberWolf
Jun 20, 2007 | 10:24 PM

This child was asked to be removed from a Christian church while rejoicing with the rest of the congregation. THIS IS NOT ONLY SAD BUT SHAMEFUL! How dare a church who says we are all children of GOD judge this child and her mode of communicating love and joy! SHAME ON YOU! You owe this mother and child a deep and sincere apology for your actions! This disgusts me and disappoints me that anyone would agree that this was the RIGHT DECISION! I am so sorry for this mother - she must have been horrified when the church treated her and her child in this manner...MY LOVE goes out to you both!

DocsAnthraxGirl view my photos
Jun 21, 2007 | 8:10 AM

I worked 14 years in Special Education and after seeing this story last night make me think of when I was a kid and how special needs people were treated. Let's put all special needs people, no matter how mild or severe, in one room and shut them away from the rest of us "normal" people. FOR SHAME! These people that complained and asked the family to leave couldn't put up with noise for an hour. I'd rather deal with a special needs child making noise then people who can't turn off their cell phone ringer.

techgod02301 read my blog
Jun 21, 2007 | 8:43 AM

This was a child with a neurological disorder. This, according to her mom, IS her way of worshipping and celebration. I wonder how many ministers wanted to throw the Disciples out for speaking in tongues at Pentecost? This is an absolute travesty. All we need to do to see the truth here is apply the old standard WWJD - What Would Jesus Do? I have a very vivid imagination, but I can't picture a scenario where Jesus would say "Hey, get that noisy kid out of here - I'm trying to preach!" Shame on this church for forgetting the true message of the Bible - Love one another.

lmerrill
Jun 21, 2007 | 9:20 AM

I wonder what God is thinking? This little girl was just praising God the only way she knows how. In fact, in some churches people jump up and yell out all the time.
Does the hymn verse go, "Jesus loves the little children - but not the disabled."
Bless Rev. Mark Jackson and First Baptist Church of Nashua - an open and inclusive church.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Jun 21, 2007 | 9:40 AM

Sometimes God's gifts come in strange wrappings. This girl and her mother were done a wonderful service by the usher at the church. She now attends a church where the pastor appreciates and respects her daughter. Isn't that a wonderful thing?

Dramamama read my blog
Jun 21, 2007 | 10:31 AM

Any child, disabled, or not, if they are making noises, that are desruptive to other members, should be taken out into the foyer, or a cry room, or another room with a speaker. MOST churches have those. Manners are manners. It has nothing to do with disablity, but the parents sensitivity to those around her. We have TONS of crying kids in our church services. Most parents take the child out into the hall, quiet them down and bring them back. However there are some parents who don't get it, and let a child scream and scream. So we don't know all the details. If the child was making an occasional outburst, then that is one thing. Again, we don't know all the details. Even in the assemblies at my school, where they bring all the ABA, and handicapped kids, who make noises, if they are TOO distruptive, their aids take them out. And Techgod, I feel Christ would take the child out, calm them down, then bring them BACK. Our church believes in bring ALL the noisy children, but being respectful to others. And sometimes it can get pretty noisy.

MARepublican1 read my blog view my photos
Jun 21, 2007 | 11:13 AM

Well said Chip, well said. Thanks for putting this issue into a better perspective for me.

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