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More and more it is becoming apparent that how we vote for a candidate is changing.

Obama just took Mississippi where it seems most people voted according to his race.  He won 90% of the votes and the vast majority came from black voters.  What does that say?  Were they voting on Obama's platform or the fact he's dark-skinned?

Is it more important to the black community to have a person of color in the WH than a person that can do a good job?

I'm not saying he could or couldn't do any better than Hillary or McCain, but this has shown how much this race is connected to race and religion.  We already threw out our Governor from the race because of his religion!

Why can't people see that we could end up with a leader that is not qualified when we allow predjudices and descrimination to alter our judgment?  These kind of voters would be the first to complain if things got worse than they already are.

It has beome more like the gameshow "Who Do You Trust?" rather than who can do the job.  Blacks only trust blacks; Catholics and Protestants only trust those of their own religion.

Are blacks interpreting Obama's platform of "Change" to mean something other than what others take it to mean?  If the vote in Mississippi is any indication, the answer seems to be 'yes'.

As for me, I would have no trouble voting for a black person, or someone with a religion different from what I am familiar with (as long as it wasn't radical) as long as he met my personal criteria as to what makes a good President.  Race and religion is not on the top of my list, but it is looking like this race has put these things on top for many people in this Country.   Where is the logic in that?

I think Romney and Huckabee were very good candidates, yet they got run over by two candidates that stood for something more that seems to be priorities in people's minds.  Maybe they weren't ruthless enough.  Maybe they weren't arrogant enough.  Maybe they weren't slick orators.  Maybe they were too honest?

I'm disappointed that it has come to this.

Give me your feedback; am I right or wrong?

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C_Fox read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 9:33 AM

I edited this, but for some reason the editing didn't show up. Obama tood 64% of the vote in Mississippi, not ninety. But, 90% of those votes were from blacks. Also corrected other things but....

Sorry, now it can't be done again.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 10:58 AM

For fear of reading "Why did I know Chip would have a probem with this blog...." :-)

You are SO right. What is happening on the Democratic side is frightening. If I had a buck fr every person who has told me they were voting for Obama, yet cannot list a SINGLE concrete plan of his, I'd OWN Massachusetts nt live in it. When confronted, they say, "But I like him."

Likeablilty is a poor qualification, or Bozo the Clown would be President, for God sakes. I have no idea what he stands for really, except that he'd pull out the troops (frightening in itself, because every expert on EITHER side of th eaisle says that would empower Al Quaeda). It is my opinion that he is purposely hiding his agenda, because it is one that the mainstream American would not vote for.

It's not race, it's substance. If Obama were in the room, and you turned on the fan to blow away the smoke, the room would be empty.

jonsmom read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 11:51 AM

I too have asked Obama supporters why they want to have him as our next president and have gotten no real answers. I think for the most part C Fox, this blog is accurate. I tend to disagree with your "Catholics and Protestants only trusting those of their religion" though. If that were true no Catholics would have voted since the sixties, except for Teddy. And I know that's not true. It is a sad statement for our country that people vote for or against race or gender. It leaves the issues out of the circle. My main concern for the next president is the economy. Gas prices, unemployment, etc. I want the next CIC to be dependable, honest, humble. Oops. That can never happen. Seriously though I do want the next President to be aware of where this country is headed and try to catch it before it crashes. What's important to American people seems to fall on deaf ears when it comes to government. Education funding, homelessness, health care. I could go on and on.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 2:15 PM

Now...if yo gave me....Colin Powell...or Condy Rice....we'd be talking a different tune!!!

sirB read my blog
Mar 12, 2008 | 5:41 PM

Even Oprah is guilty of it. She backed Hillary up until a black man was running. Then she jumped right on the Obama bandwagon.

TheRealAmerican read my blog
Mar 12, 2008 | 7:56 PM

How many times do we see people being interviewed on some news segment and inevitably it's some woman, often younger, saying "I'm voting for Hillary! It's about time a WOMAN had a chance to run things..." - really intelligent there too.

Vote based on the persons viewpoints and what (campaign promises) you feel they will REALLY come through on, not just spew talking points they have NO intention of fullfilling...

Vote on the FACTS, not the color of a persons skin or their gender...

Hell, vote on the CANDIDATE and what they TRULY stand for, not just their party affiliation...

Too bad there are so many people who don't follow the above. I do...

Xantun read my blog view my photos
Mar 12, 2008 | 8:31 PM

sirB, I saw something on a political/news program that someone had e-mailed in after Bill Clinton's comments about South Carolina that raised the very same point. This person had said "Bill Clinton didn't make Obama the "black candidate", Oprah did." And it's sadly true.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Obama is a great orator. That said, we as a country need to be asking him the unsaid portion of his US Senate slogan. "Yes We Can"- do what? Even though I'm a younger woman, I don't really like the idea of Hillary in the White House. But, she has at least offered some feasible ideas. I'm at the point in this cycle where "historic" campaigns of ANY stripe really don't matter to me. (Question for you folks, speaking of "historic". Would Mitt Romney's campaign also be "historic" if he hadn't stepped aside?) Electing Deval Patrick here was also "historic", and look where that's gotten us. I don't really want to wake up on January 10th, 2009 to find out we as a country are even more screwed than we were on January 9th.

rcctigers read my blog
Mar 14, 2008 | 1:54 PM

CAN IT REALLY GET WORSE THAN IT IS NOW...WOW TALKING ABOUT SMOKE UP YOUR A$$

C_Fox read my blog view my photos
Mar 14, 2008 | 4:23 PM

Xantun, I think Romney's election would be historic only in the sense that we have never had a Mormon President before; we have had other religions that vary. But, for some odd reason a lot of people see Mormons as extreme or too distant from their own beliefs. It doesn't matter that he said his religion would not dictate his decisions. Actually, don't they all say that?

And, those voting for Hillary because they are curious as to how a woman would handle the Presidency seems like a rather risky reason to vote for her. We've seen how other women have handled leadership in other countries; its not like we've never heard of one before. I was actually thinking about Condi as a possibility seeing as she is very experienced in foreign affairs and we need someone like that for our next President in view of the overseas problems we face. But, apparently, she really doesn't want the job. (She's smarter than I thought! LOL)

And, Obama; look at what his platform consists of. He has promised the world to every organization, every special interest group, ever concerned parent and worker in this country...but what's new? He's just promised more than most. You name the issue, he's going to fix it. Yet, he says he wants to increase federal funding. How? Does he want the Fed Reserve to print up money (which increases debt), or is he talking about increasing taxes? See, he doesn't really say. He doesn't specify a lot of things. He's very non-committal which leaves him the ability to flip-flop without criticism. Smart man. And what about when he won't be able to fulfill all

Xantun read my blog view my photos
Mar 14, 2008 | 9:18 PM

C_Fox, that's what I meant about Romney being "historic", his religion. Personally, I don't care about the history making in terms of the person running the show. I just want someone who actually has more than a snowball's chance in Hell on delivering most of what they've promised during the election. (If you need more of a hint, I'm definitely NOT voting for Obama!)

And with the woman issue, I'm with you that I'd rather see Ms. Rice running. Not knocking Hillary, but I do think that Condoleeza would be a better candidate, with more experience in the foreign affairs as well as other areas. (Being First Lady and then a few term US Senator really doesn't chalk up much experience, despite the jokesters who claim Hillary was really running the show in the White House.)

Unfortunately, too many people are being swayed by the chance to "make history", and they're too busy deciding which history to make that they're not paying attention to the people behind that label.

josephine-binaca read my blog view my photos
Mar 15, 2008 | 11:01 AM

Xantum, I agree with you. Obama is a great orator with nothing substantive to say. Yet his words (or smething ) seem to move people.
Which is scary because you hvwhe no idea what he really believes in if anything
weve seen the danger of pursuasive orators in Adolph Hitler

Xantun read my blog view my photos
Mar 15, 2008 | 7:26 PM

Josephine, I seriously think that is why Obama didn't win the primaries in Massachusetts or New Hampshire, despite Oprah holding a rally with Obama in the latter state. The people of Massachusetts elected a persuasive orator in 2006 to run the state, and look what happened with that. Unfortunately, I don't think that there are many places in the country that aren't in the New England region that have heard of the governor's exploits. Combine that with the Oprah factor and his oratory skill, and that is why he's currently the front runner in the race. What Geraldine Ferraro said regarding Obama DOES have a kernel of truth to it. It's just a shame she didn't fully flesh out the truth. If Obama weren't backed by Oprah (who seems to only be backing him because he's black), and he didn't have his oratory skill, he would have been laughed out of the race by now due to his "platform" or complete lack thereof.

MattyG read my blog
Mar 17, 2008 | 10:15 PM

Obama's campaign for change has more substance than you might think. There's a lot of content on his website if you care to look into it.McCain is running to continue the politics of Bush. We've seen it for eight years with Bush and we know what it's like. In that context, Obama's ''change'' agenda is quite clear.

An aside to Chip...I'd love to know which experts say it would help Al Qaeda if we pulled out of Iraq. If pulling out of Iraq helps Al Qaeda, that's more proof that we never should have invaded Iraq at all, which is a reason to vote for Obama.

I'd also like to know why, specifically, Chip would support Powell. Powell is probably the posterboy for RINO.

C_Fox, you're saying Condi is good at foreign policy?

Xantun is your point Obama is successful because he's a good campaigner? Isn't that the point?

Xantun read my blog view my photos
Mar 18, 2008 | 6:58 PM

No, Matty, my point is that Obama is yet another persuasive orator. If you want to see what a persuasive orator who used the same strategy Obama is using now can do when put into office, take a look at the corner office in Beacon Hill. We don't need another Deval Patrick, especially in a higher up job than Deval's.

TheRealAmerican read my blog
Mar 18, 2008 | 7:01 PM

MattyGee -

Do you just MEMORIZE the blurbs from the MoveOn.rog website?

NorthernObserver read my blog
May 14, 2008 | 1:08 PM

I supported Romney in the primary. He ran for President, not preacher and that is why we should have had him now instead of McCain. I hope he is picked for VP.

People can interpret what Obama says in any way they want. He speaks in such general terms like hope and change as if we knew what he was hoping for and exactly what he will change and how he will make the changes according to his hopes.

It is like saying I will do it better, better than what or I am not like George Bush. In which way are you not like him? Are you not like him in size, skin color, dreams, and aspirations? I want to know what he will do, Presiding over the 57 states he has visited. LOL.

C_Fox read my blog view my photos
May 14, 2008 | 2:44 PM

On spot NorthernObserver!

And in response to MattyG:

I have seen his website; he wants to "change" everything! Heck we all want to change most everything, but have you noticed how he intends to make these changes?

If he becomes President (groan), get ready to dig deeper into your pockets; his plan for "change" is to give the Federal Budget more money...that's on his website, too. And guess where he intends to get it from?

NorthernObserver read my blog
May 15, 2008 | 12:14 PM

Americans need to smarten up. The government can NOT give us anything. They only take from us and redistribute it to others. The government has no money. Every dime they spend or hand out comes right from OUR pockets. Rich or poor WE all pay into the government.

C_Fox read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 2:54 AM

You're right, NO...our government has no money. The money being spent comes from the Federal Reserve that they print up out of thin air, gives it to our Government for redistribution and charges our government for the use of it. The government turns around and puts that borrowed money on our shoulders via taxes so they can pay back the loans to the FED. Are you aware that 40% of your tax dollars goes towards this usury charge by the FED? And are you aware that the FED is a privately owned system consisting of 12 international banks...it is not a government run system?

C_Fox read my blog view my photos
May 16, 2008 | 2:59 AM

Thank you all for your responses...much appreciated!

Oh, and mattyG, Condi is *experienced* and does seem to have some influence with foreign leaders. But, that's neither here nor there since she is not a current candidate for President.

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