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Pedophile in the Corner Office
Feb 7, 2008 | 1:20 PM
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Is anyne else as outraged as I am that a key aide to Governor Duh-val Patrick was arrested in Florida for having sex wth an underage boy?  Aparently, a key aide to Governor Duh-val Patrick was recently placed on unpaid leave from the Governor's staff after being arrested in  Florida for allegedly having sex with a teenaged boy.

My questions revolve around what degree of due diligence was used in the background checks of the Governor's office staff.  Duh-val has the complete investigative power of the Massachusetts State Police to check the backgrounds of folks who are appointed to high level state jobs.  That is routine practive for all past governors.  It is both routine and simple.  Send the name to the State Police...wait for the report.  The details given do not need to pass the legal tests that would be required for evidence in court.

Now, when you add to this that there is virtually NO chance that this is the first time that this man has taken an interest in children, the hair should go up on yur neck further.  I'm here t tell you that folks don't "catch pedophilia from a toilet seat."  And I'm also here to tell you that it wouldn't take a seasoned State Police investigator a lot of effort to "sniff out" that sort of history....maybe not enough to convict, but enough to decide not to employ!!!

Ladies and gentlemen, I have to say...this is simply the worst in a seemingly never ending series of major mistakes in the short, yet disgusting career of Governor Patrick.

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ahumbleman read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 1:29 PM

Well, what would you expect from a guy who wants to make it harder for employers to access CORI records? I wonder if this will change his mind
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 3:22 PM

Chip, oddly enough, I wasn't surprised. Like Humble said, this is the guy who wants to gut CORI access. Which makes me wonder (semi-cynic that I am) if maybe he had this guy in mind when he proposed changing the access. And if so, how much money did this guy contribute to his campaign? This might be the worst so far, but wait a minute...I'm sure Deval can do "better" next time.
Chip read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 4:13 PM

I hadn't even put those "2's" together...I'd forgotten his opposition to CORI...Doesn't that just make this stink to high heaven!!

And Xantun a "semi" cynic...that's as interesting a euphemism as the term "semi" truck!!
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 4:57 PM

alright, alright, I'm a DEMI-critic. Better? :-P
Chip read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 6:08 PM

"Demi"....now I start with the jokes about women previously married to...kidding!!!
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 6:52 PM

LOL, Chip! I would have said demi-god, but I know I ain't THAT good. Just close.

Back on topic, I hope Immette St. Gullien's family uses this to help blast the Patrick (utter lack of) administration. That unfortunate case swelled the original opposition to this "plan" of Deval's.
jonsmom read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 9:09 PM

Let me start by saying I am not a Patrick fan. I voted for Healey which was my first vote for a republican since Ronald Regan. And NO I don't think we should have a pedophile in our State House in any capacity. If he is a convicted pedophile, he should still be in jail. That being said, I do agree with limited access to CORI for employers. For instance, if there is an applicant for a job driving a truck (or any vehicle) who has a DUI he/she shouldn't get the job. But if the same person is applying for a job as a cashier, why hold a DUI against them? It used to be if a person was convicted of a crime, the employer had access to that. Now if a person is even accused of a crime, the employer has access. That isn't fair. I have seen too many educated, qualified people have a tough time getting a job because of something that came up in a CORI. Something that happened years ago. Arrests, not convictions. And yes, DUI convictions. Somehow, I don't think that's fair. Now I know I'll get a lot of slack for saying this so I'm ready.
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 7, 2008 | 10:53 PM

jonsmom, the problem I have with Patrick's move to limit CORI access is not that he wants to limit checks. His idea is to not disclose arrests and/or convictions that are not "relevant" to the job a person is applying for. Unfortunately, as the case of Immette St. Gullien and this case prove, there ARE some convictions that should be universally disclosed. I don't think CORI should be used to discriminate against people applying to work the fryer at McDonald's who've had a DUI arrest/conviction, but I also don't think that repeat arrests and/or convictions for things like violent assault or serious/repeat sex crimes can be pigeonholed as irrelevant to ANY job a person might apply for.
Chip read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 7:12 AM

However, in this instance we are not only talking about CORI, but about due dilligence in protecting the public from future harm. This guy was NOT the "fry chef" at Mickey D's. This guy had the ability to help frame policy for the state. For all you know, he had "architectural" in put on the CORI position!!

Sure, limited CORI access is a good idea. Of course a single conviction for DUI should never destroy completely a persons life. That idea is both bad politics and bad ethics.

But the standard we should expect from the highest elected public official in the state FAR EXCEEDS what Duh-val did....
FoxFan67 read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 7:34 AM

Here's an idea. maybe if one does not commit a crime ...i.e. DUI, and stays on the right side of the law the there is no need to worry about a CORI. I have no problem filling out a CORI or anything else in my background as I have nothing to hide.
I think the CORI's are a needed asset to protect my children. I for one am glad they are there.
Chip read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 8:35 AM

Ah yes Chrissy...ever the voice of reason!!! And the simple fact of the matter is that all of us have known for our lifetimes that a criminal record will ruin our ability to secure and maintain a career....

BUToes anyone think MickeyD's cares if their fry cook had an OUI? Or committed larceny? Or assaulted someone in the past? They have onsite supervision...and difficulty hairing. On the other hand, let's look at the soccer coach in Lexington, or the poor child at the library in New Bedford...or Imette St. Guillen...CORI has it's place folks. Our streets are not lined with homeless convicted pedophiles living in cardboard boxes...let's not get TOO histrionic.
jonsmom read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 9:59 AM

Now you're putting words in my mouth. In my mind there is absolutely no place in society for sexual offenders whether the victim is an adult or a child. I believe they should be locked up for life, or worse. I just think that employers have too much information sometimes. What if, for instance, a 21 year old college kid is arrested for possession of pot. He gets convicted but gets say, probation for a year. He finishes school, gets his degree and starts applying for a job. How long should that be held against him by employers? Five years, ten, forever? There has to be limits to the information employers can get on people. Like I said before, it used to be just convictions they asked about. Now it's arrests too. Just because someone is arrested, does not mean they're guilty.
And Chip, McDonald's does care if someone has a criminal record. They do CORI's too.
Foxfan, Duh, you think? I've submitted to several CORIs because of my field. I've also had to fire people because they were hired pending the CORI and they came back with convictions relevant to the job they were hired to do. I'm not against the CORI checks.
FisherCat read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 1:12 PM

Chip, you know my story when i was a kid hanging around the Esplanade the Half Shell?

We were down there one night riding our bikes an it was near dusk almost dark....the Boston Police Cruiser pulls up to us an the Police officers said to us We are not telling you guys have to leave this area but we suggest you dont hand around here when it gets dark....there's things going on in this area an the bushes you dont want to see! or be propositioned by gay men.....]we looked at each other] an he continued with we know who these people are an we chase them out of the area...we even had one jump off the foot bridge trying to get away! an we chase some of them right into the State House....what they basically told us there were adult gay men having sex with gay under aged males in the bushes....an some times if there is not male minor prostitutes in the area they will sexualluy assualt young boys down here.....

One of the reasons i have always believed this state does not want a sexual predator website with full disclosure they would find no doubt some of our famous state politicians an staff with records of solicitation of a minor for sex an would have to be put on the PREDATOR WEB SITE....thats just my guess...:) Marlborough St was always considered a high risk area among friends for sexual assaults by gays when i was kid...also the Fen's the emerald necklace....in the movie THE DEPARTED when one of crew talks about leaving a body in the Fen's an Jack Nicholson's response was you left a body in a park where all the "bleep- quotes" from the John Hancock Building go to get B.
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 4:06 PM

Of course due diligence plays in here, Chip, but did you forget we're talking about Deval? I've yet to even see the guy give due diligence to ordering a freakin' pizza, let alone to the people he hires! (Don't tell me you forgot his wife's assistant.)

jonsmom, my point is that I'm not against limiting access to CORI info. I'm just against serious arrests and convictions being omitted because they're not "relevant" to the job a person's applying for, and that is what Deval Patrick has proposed. I don't think the kid in your example should be denied employment under the circumstances you listed, but if that same kid was actually convicted of running a major drug ring, that should count. Or if that same kid were convicted of a sex crime or violent assault. It's too easy to exclude things as irrelevant to certain jobs, which makes it absolutely necessary to put a caveat into this policy that states that certain crimes are mandated disclosure on any CORI check.
jonsmom read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 5:17 PM

Xantun,
With that I agree. I think we're on the same page. I'm sure the legislature would make concessions for major felonies, including violent and sex crimes if they were to consider a bill limiting access to information. There is a high recidivism rate with violent and sexual offenders so adjustments to the bill would have to be made taking that into consideration. Again, in my opinion, these criminals shouldn't even be out of jail and looking for jobs. That is a topic for another day.
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 8, 2008 | 9:30 PM

Yeah, jonsmom, I'm sure the legislature would, but Deval Patrick is pushing for a plan that wouldn't include the concessions. And now that we've found out about this creep in his administration, it kinda makes me wonder if Deval had this guy in mind when he started pushing the idea. (Call me a cynic, but it just makes me go hmm.) He's not exactly known for his smart hiring choices, remember.
marksiwel read my blog view my photos
Feb 9, 2008 | 9:48 AM

So lets say you are accused of molesting a child, they bring you up on charges, but they dont have evidence to convict. Then years later the kids grows up and admits he was lying he wanted attention ect ect ect...
Now what you cant ever get a job? So now you are homeless?
or
Example
Say you have some chemical unbalance and you freak out one day and run naked through the streets. Well a kid sees your junk, bam, sex offender. You take your meds you seek help and get better, your company shuts down, you look for a new job, what's this? Now you cant get one because you are a sex offender. Now you are jobless, you lose your house, now your homeless, you cant afford your pills.
Now you're a crazy, jobless, homeless, sex offender living off the streets, robbing quickie marts and selling drugs just to get by...
Tsk
Tsk
Tsk
Chip read my blog view my photos
Feb 9, 2008 | 7:07 PM

mark...CORI's report convictions...try not to get too hysterical....Heaven forbid ANYONE should suffer the consequences of his/her behavior...
marksiwel read my blog view my photos
Feb 9, 2008 | 10:07 PM

I thought JAIL was supposed to be the consequence, then when you are done, they let you out.
Or did I miss something?
Xantun read my blog view my photos
Feb 9, 2008 | 11:20 PM

mark, jail's the consequence, but you still don't want to put a higher level sex offender in a job where they can work with kids. It's also not a good idea to have one working for you if you're the governor of a state. It looks really bad when they get caught molesting a kid. (Which is the point of this blog.)
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