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I just finished reading about the latest attempt by the Boston Police to stem the violence in Boston neighborhoods by seeking parents permission to have the Police search their teenager's rooms without a warrant to find weapons.  At first it seems like a reasonable attempt to be proactive and certainly would do more good than candle light vigils.  I guess then the caffine from my morning coffee kicked in and I actually started to see how ridiculous an idea this is.  Why should the police be the ones to search these teenage rooms??  What about the parents stepping up to the plate and search their own teenagers room themselves???  Parents need to parent.....this means if you suspect your child has an illegal weapon you confront them, search their room  ect....
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Graham_Cracker read my blog view my photos
Nov 18, 2007 | 7:48 PM

The problem is that too many parents cannot be trusted, Chopp. It's very sad, but it's just the way that society has decayed...

Chip read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 8:20 AM

Chopp, the theory that government will replace the responsibility of parents is the theory that is CREATING parents who do not do as they should, or have no clue how to. It's liberal social engineering gone horribly bad.

A better idea is to reward the parents who DO turn in violence, drug and gang related kids. Or even better, give tax breaks for new parents who attend parenting classes...Maybe this could be run in "Stupid School"....

Graham_Cracker read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM

"A better idea is to reward the parents who DO turn in violence, drug and gang related kids."
-Yeah, that's sure to get results...because of course so many parents will be willing to turn in their own kids. Oy-vey.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 3:34 PM

Or....they might take responsibility for their own children and set some limits, then, with that effort failing, even thugh they tried their hardest, they bring in the assistance of the police, because they know the alternative is their own children's demise.

Then, when they take this difficult but courageous step, our society could reward them. To respect them, to put them up as the ultimate in parental sacrifice...instead of doing news stories about them when thehy are crying because they have lost their children to senseless violence.

It's called leadership...it's called courage...It's call parental responsibility.

That coupled with investing in the nuclear family, and acknowldeging that our failed social policies have, in fact harmed it, may have the effect of reducing violence.

Making cops do simple parenting certainly won't.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 3:41 PM

Let me use a Christian analogy, or paraphrase the Words of Christ who once said, " Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime."

"Send a family a police officer, and they will be safe for a day, teach a family to police itself, it will be safe forever."

JuneInMA read my blog view my photos
Nov 19, 2007 | 10:50 PM

Ah Chip, if only parents did what you described, with the only reward being the safety and well-being of their children. Doesn't it seem like that should be enough? I know, you are thinking like me, sadly that's not the case, but it really makes me sad to think about stuff like this.

I'm not a parent. I hope to be someday, but not yet. Everytime I think about the world I would be bringing this child into, it makes me think twice. Really, it is just beyond sad and scary.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Nov 20, 2007 | 9:57 AM

June, from everything yu say, the world you would bring a child into would be a world of warm caring family, good values and quality role models. what happens outside that nest matters little when the right things happens inside.

Graham_Cracker read my blog view my photos
Nov 20, 2007 | 12:04 PM

NAIVE

JuneInMA read my blog view my photos
Nov 21, 2007 | 1:32 PM

You may be right, Chip, and I hope you are. I look forward to the incredible experience or motherhood. God knows I'll be a devoted mother. I hope my husband and I are enough to protect our child from those evils. We can only do our best, I guess.

Graham_Cracker read my blog view my photos
Nov 21, 2007 | 6:35 PM

Life is different in 'the hood', and parents are intimidated by their 'gangsta' teenagers. If the police are allowed to step in, at least it's an action -- it's SOMETHING. The way things are now...you're not going to 'entice' frightened/intimidated parents into turning their kids in for some 'reward', but they might feel differently if the police actually showed up at the door. At least it shows the police are trying. Unfortunately there's a bunch of liberals going around door-to-door fearmongering by telling them that their civil liberties are at stake. ...People with blood on their hands.

JuneInMA read my blog view my photos
Nov 21, 2007 | 10:22 PM

Graham,

Yes, you are right. It is ACTION. At least there's an attempt to do something. That's good. I see your point about parents being intimidated, and you are right about that too. However, I'd rather see my child in jail or have myself die than to see THEM die due to violence. I just wouldn't be able to live with that. In jail, at least there would be the HOPE of reform, the HOPE that the child will come out of there with a different outlook in life. If they're dead, there's no hope. I understand that a lot of parents don't see it this way, but that is that part that baffles me. I can't understand that. It is absolutely imperative they step in, no matter what!! But I see your point.

P.S - not just in the 'hood. It happens in the 'burbs too. :)

WILDAPPLEJIM read my blog
Nov 25, 2007 | 11:47 AM

Being a father of a 17 yr.old, l
can tell you this,It is a veary
difficult time for both,There
are so many pitfalles. Teen's,
and parents jockey thair love
around. If a parent theretens to
invade thair childs privercy,
the child, has wepons of thair
own. (not just gun's) They know thair parents weekneses, and they learn to win in thair own way. When this happens, And I
Know from my own fleash and blood experiences! Children,
Not all, but thoes who have a
determination to get what they
want, will do almoast anything
to achive that goal.good or bad. Policing my be a parents
only hope, A trump card of des-
peration, If l may say. It doese
seem harsh, the question is, l
ask you,to what extream doese
the parent, or parent's go.
I say to love your chidren,truly
there is no limet!
But l warn you all,Once it is
done, it can not be undone,Choose
veary carefully how to police
your child,or children. You
have to live with that discion.
It's effect will be with you,
the rest of you,and yours,life.
Policing my be nessary thease
day's for parents with no controle over thair child, bottom
line is Is ,in my opionyon. let
these parents who want this to
call police for themselfe's. If
not have a friend or pastor
do so,for thair own peace of mind. God Bless us all!

Chopp143 read my blog view my photos
Nov 25, 2007 | 12:10 PM

I guess I have a cold heart because I never expected to be my sons friend. My job was to provide shelter, disipline, direction and love. Love does not have to include friendship. Now that both my sons are grown and out of the house we have developed a friendship that could not exist when they were pushing for their independence under my roof.

WILDAPPLEJIM read my blog
Nov 25, 2007 | 1:48 PM

Chopp, That was a different time,
You were, As I, raised to respect
your parents and elders, That is
not the case anymore. Now adays
we, As parents are restricted, a
parent can not beat or threten
or force a child to do what thay
are told, Children know this, It
is learned veary early in thair
young lives, startes in kidnergarden,goes right up to thair 14th birthday, After that
Children can divorce thair own
parents, even before that, they
call d.s.s or police on thair own
parents to get thair one way or
use the threat of that, they tell
a teacher or anyone who will go
to bat for them, side with them
they have the internet,We gave
them tease tools to overule us.
Courts side with children.
It's a child vs. parent world.
If you can not outsmart them,
they can certainly outsmart you.
If you lose control,just once,
your child know's, they build on
that. I is a battle for both the
child and parent, more laws,or
ways to enforce a parentents
right is what is needed, for
the parents to keep thair children in line, untill they
grow up and know it is in thair
best intrest or learn this of
you...who wants to do what thay
are TOLD? that's the bottom line.
I t is a tuff pill to swallow,all
I have learned in my 55 yrs. Did
not work to my advange, Not yet
anyhow, I can only preay It will.
but it is up to my daughter, Her
life is her own, I brought her in
to this world, I can not take her
out. She is in control of her
destany, not I.Myself, I'm with God.Till the end of days,Amen
My life is as such, I'm ok with
that.it is to me, and fo

WILDAPPLEJIM read my blog
Nov 27, 2007 | 5:18 PM

Chopp,I'm sorry I ran out your
page, I'm new at this, I guess
I got carried away, I'm hyper
when te subject rattles my cage.
Didn't I meet you in PLYMOTH.
THAT STRIPER LOOKS FAMILUAR.
I WAS THERE 3 TIMES THIS PAST
summer, caught a22in, working
on a keeper.Yours is a bute.
I like.

Chopp143 read my blog view my photos
Nov 28, 2007 | 10:02 AM

Boston Harbor near George's Island.

WILDAPPLEJIM read my blog
Nov 28, 2007 | 1:04 PM

choop, Did you eat the fish?

Chopp143 read my blog view my photos
Nov 28, 2007 | 2:12 PM

As a matter of fact I did and it was great.

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Chopp143

Life long Boston area resident, sports fan, political junkie. Graduated public school when they still could provide a decent education. Firefighter, husband, father, coach, blue collar guy.

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