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From The Banks Of The Muddy Missouri

by Diesel from Grain Valley, Mo

Last Post 192 days, 6 hours Ago


I have not written a blog in a while, but I feel the need to rant over what is so obviously injustice's with the family court system. There is someone in my family that has 3 kids and struggles the best he can on a very little salary to make ends meet for these children. More often than not, he fails to provide.. But the Missouri Family Court system refuses to enforce child support on the mother. They will not put this "dead beat mother" in jail or whatever. And you know beyond a shadow of a doubt he'd be in jail or wages garnish'd if his mother had "primary" custody. Let's be honest.. These children suffer because of inaction by judges and a system employed by worthless human beings. Now he has DFS knocking on his door because of the conditions the children live in. I see these kids regularly and it's not a great life, but they are happy children.  When is enough enough? We need some serious reform when it comes to old used up has been failure judges and a legal system that takes a dump on justice. I know from my experience I pay a huge butt load of child support to my ex.. so my daughter from this ex, and my child from my current marriage struggle because of this failed system.  There is a very warm place in hell for these judges and lawyers that have made money of the pain they have inflected on children and families.. and yes, I am mad.... Maybe if they'd enforce child support against dead beat mothers he'd be able to provide a much safer environment.. But God forbid that mother''s should be held accountable to their children..

 

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Sk8ingCoach read my blog
Oct 22, 2007 | 3:28 PM

that's ridiculous! and forget about him being able to get a lawyer to actually enforce any order....they want $1500 up front!

seriously...if we could afford to toss $1500 up front, why the heck would we need a lawyer to get the $4000 owed to me in child support?!?

my child also suffers because of it. he's not starving or wearing rags or anything...but i'm sure anybody coming in this house would give us a hard time about the raggedy carpet and the broken taped up windows....which $4000 would take care of pretty darned quick!

we always see fathers fail to support their kids financially and emotionally. it's no big shocker....but i will never to be able to understand how a mother could just walk away from her kids, much less not paying money to help them.

pixielynn
Oct 22, 2007 | 4:46 PM

Here's a good one for ya... My step-daughter's(we have sole custody of her) mother is a Major Dead Beat. She has 5 kids. Out of these 5 she has custody of only 1. She is to be paying child support on my step-daughter of $134 a month. She now over $5000 behind, doesn't call her, doesn't send letters or cards. They haven't seen each other for since March of this year. We have talked with the Kansas Child Support Enforcement several times only to hear, "we are working on it". That's bull!!!!! The last time we talked to them, they finally told us that they were going to start working with Missouri on this since she now lives in Raytown. We can't get any help at all from the state, but this low life is get every type of help from the state.
My ex husband pays his child support every 2 weeks no problem at all. My husband pays his every 2 weeks no problem at all. Because of the way both of the payments are set up at the end of the year we get a letter stating that they are behind. Every year, I call them state and they check and yes, everything is fine. It's all because of when they get paid and the payments get sent in by their employer.
I'm so sick of women getting away with stuff like this.

snapper read my blog
Oct 22, 2007 | 7:34 PM

Sorry to hear this Diesel---This has been a long time problem. My ex and I have two kids, when they were younger my son lived with me and our daughter lived with her mom. I was ordered to pay support but my ex was not. She had a better job-she has a college degree. It left a very bad taste in my mouth. Good luck to your family member.

redhotz read my blog
Oct 22, 2007 | 9:53 PM

I have not been in this situation personally, however, when I was younger, and not so smart, I knew 2 young females that had their child taken away from them. Neither of which at the time were ordered to pay child support. Upon looking back, as I got older, and away from these deadbeat moms, I realized that when this all happened, and I was perturbed at the judicial system, the system did the right thing. Now, let me say this. Being a female, I can't imagine losing custody of my children for any reason. However, if I ever did, I find no reason, whatsoever NOT to be ordered to pay child support as would the father if the roles were reversed. So I too wonder why these women are not being held accountable for their actions. It is so true, if they were deadbeat fathers, they would be getting the book thrown at them. I hope and pray diesel that your family member will get some help. I will keep him and the children in my thoughts and prayers. And he deserves a big hug and pat on the back for taking care of his children the best he can. He stepped up to the plate when they needed him.

1wildflower2 read my blog
Oct 22, 2007 | 11:00 PM

Diesel,

Did the mother sign away her parental rights, if she did, she is not obligated to pay child support. This may be the reason she is not paying, some mother give up their parental rights so that they do not have to pay.

redhotz read my blog
Oct 22, 2007 | 11:15 PM

No, but this was 20 years ago. And times have certainly changed. I do stand by what I said however, that in todays times, a woman should have to abide by anything a man should when it comes to her child/children. If she loses custody or shares custody and she is required to pay child support and/or carry medical insurance, etc. then she should be required to carry out the judges orders. Too many times I feel like women aren't being held to it as would be the men. Is this because they are women? I don't know this answer, but wouldn't it be great to have that answer? And as I said before, IF (and I emphasize IF) I were ever in the aforementioned situation I would abide by the judges orders, as I would definitely expect their father to do so.

redhotz read my blog
Oct 22, 2007 | 11:15 PM

No, but this was 20 years ago. And times have certainly changed. I do stand by what I said however, that in todays times, a woman should have to abide by anything a man should when it comes to her child/children. If she loses custody or shares custody and she is required to pay child support and/or carry medical insurance, etc. then she should be required to carry out the judges orders. Too many times I feel like women aren't being held to it as would be the men. Is this because they are women? I don't know this answer, but wouldn't it be great to have that answer? And as I said before, IF (and I emphasize IF) I were ever in the aforementioned situation I would abide by the judges orders, as I would definitely expect their father to do so.

wrangler1950 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 8:07 AM

It is all a government game. We have a bunch of old farts sitting on the bench living in a fog, listening to a bunch of stupid lawyers. These lawyers have been in front of the same judge for years, and they all play the same game. The guy usually gets screwed, and lets face it, It will remain like that until we get off our butts and start writing letters to get this changed.

Diesel read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 9:58 AM

1wildflower2, no, she has been ordered to pay child support. She currently refuses to work, and had another child. My biggest point here is, l ike wrangler1950 said, the judges live in a fog, and it's high time to replace these petrified logs and send them home.

There is such a double standard, men are losing control over their child's lifes left and right out there, society continues to go down hill. Fathers are just as important as mothers, and if you think differently, then you are apart of the problem.

poisonedtemper read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 11:36 AM

Being a mother I could not live with myself not taking care of my child. It is not only missouri it is kansas too. My daughters dad owes over $28,000.00 in past due child support. He did not call her on her birthday or get her anything. I have remarried and she has given up on her real dad whom she has called by his first name ever since she could talk and is calling my new husband dad. The courts have failed and so has SRS. If you go with an outside agency they take a lot of what they collect. I have given ks all the information they need. It is now a felony on his record and they know where he lives and what he drives but still have not arrested him. I get no help from srs or the state and they should pay what he owes and then maybe they will do their jobs and go after him. Same for the judges who kept giving him chance after chance. He made the be he must lie in it. Soryy to hear it is a mother doing this. How sas, but the children will know who really cared when it really counts!!!

cdanforth read my blog view my photos
Oct 23, 2007 | 12:38 PM

It is more common than you might think. Dead beat mothers.

My nephew's mother has not called him since March and once again, did not call him on his birthday last month.

My family has never spoken bad about her in front of him, but he is unfortunatly beginning to see her for who she is. We didn't have to help point it out.

wrangler1950 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 1:38 PM

Well i pay my child support, and have for 15 years, I am behind $400.00 only because the courts can't keep track of anything.
But what really pisses me off is, My son is wearing hand me down clothes. This woman is the laziest, vindictive, lying, none caring woman i have ever seen.
Let a bunch of women start crying the blues to some dumb lawyer in the state house and they pass another law.
You women need to get off your butts and get a job and quite whining.
People of the United States, Lets band together and get some laws changed ourselves

Sk8ingCoach read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 2:17 PM

Wrangler, i understand your frustration. my ex was ordered to pay 20% of his net salary for our son. it's a big chunk if you think about it.

*however*, HE has not paid it. not ONE dime in over 3 years. so please....don't say how easy it is for women to get their ex's to pay, and how hard it is for men. in my experience, that is an untrue statement.

BOTH men and women blow off their obligations, and BOTH men and women are allowed to get away with it, because the responsible spouse is hindered by either lack of funds or the government's apathy.

wrangler1950 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 2:29 PM

Yes, you are right Sk8ingCoach, I guess i am dealing with a freeloading female who is in the system and she is going to ride it for all it is worth.
What ever happen to 3 years and you are off State aid?
I would be more than happy to back anyone who wants to start working for a different means.
Time to get rid of the old, old judges, ans old, old Lawyers.

Sk8ingCoach read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 2:37 PM

i think that the ex's might be more willing to pay child support if there was some control over where that money was spent.

ie: john doe is ordered to pay jane doe $100 per month for child support. jane doe is ordered to spend these monies in a way that is supportive of the CHILD. (booze, cigs, new clothes and new purses for jane doe does NOT count as supportive of the child!)

i would be angry at your ex if i were you too. i'm definately angry at mine!

wrangler1950 read my blog
Oct 23, 2007 | 3:58 PM

Yes i think it is time to make the Ex's stand up and be counted. When people say they are supporting there ex's, that real close to being true, as long as she gets what she wants its ok, but when the kid needs something, she sends him to me, welllllllll that is about to change.
Sk8ingcoach, I hope you get something one of these days.

redhotz read my blog
Oct 24, 2007 | 12:06 AM

I think you can tell by my previous replies that I am not on either side here. Let me add too that I have a cousin who IS held accountable (not that she minds) for each and every cent she receives from her ex for their son. She would rather prove every dime she gets, where it goes, etc. so that she doesn't have to see him squirm when he whines because he doesn't want to pay more as his pay increases. I think there is no reason why a parent (dad OR mom) shouldn't be required to provide receipts upon request. Perhaps to those of you out there reading this, you can tell your attorney next meeting that you want this done. Both my cousin and her ex agreed to it mutually, works great. Good Luck!

NoAngel read my blog
Oct 24, 2007 | 7:33 AM

Hmmm...this all goes back to the point that you shouldn't have children if you cannot support them. Historically men have made much higher salaries than women. Don't get me wrong, I believe that women should pay child support as well as men. Still though, why have a child if you don't make enough money by yourself to support it? For the record, I haven't received child support from my ex in over 10 years but I'm not whining about it. Karma will get his butt. I just take care of business and support my children. I chose not to have kids until I knew that I could take care of them by myself if need be. My point is clear - Don't make them unless you can take care of them.

Diesel read my blog view my photos
Oct 24, 2007 | 8:26 AM

NoAngel, that will never happen, so it's rather pointless to bring up that point...

pro-freedom read my blog
Oct 24, 2007 | 1:06 PM

I understand the point that mothers should pay child support also. My fiance and I had custody of his cousins daughter for almost one year. The mother, nor the father, offered up any kind of support, not one penny, EVER! And to make things worse, when the state tried to get the parents to attend court dates they (the biological parents) started calling the caseworker constantly making threats of physical harm to my family. Because of the threats (almost every day for two months) the state came and took the precious girl from us and placed her in a foster home, where she still remains today. It tore my family up inside and we have been allowed no contact with "our daughter". Also, my biological daughters father has never payed a penny in child support, and she is five and a half years old. I've gotten NO help from the state and he now lives in Las Vegas and I still get no help. This system is definitely BROKEN!!!

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