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How much you pay for a plane ticket may depend on how much you weigh. That's according to an airline industry analyst who says airline CEOs are actually considering charging passengers by their weight! So, if you're thinking about flying...you may also want to start thinking about dieting. Finally, a legitimate reason to not serve us meals on the flight! But let's be real folks...the cutbacks and craziness has to end somewhere?

Once again, the cost of fuel is fueling the discussion with airlines pointing to costs tripling since 2000. "After U.S. Airlines reported combined first-quarter losses of $1.7 billion and crude oil jumped to a record $133.17 a barrel on May 21, almost double from a year earlier, fares based on a passenger's weight may be a logical step", Robert Mann tells Bloomberg News. No, a logical step is to reconfigure the planes and pack less people in them...reducing the amount of weight while at the same time giving passengers more leg room. Wait a minute...I just suggested providing a benefit to the passenger...that'll never fly!

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fenwaydav read my blog view my photos
Jun 4, 2008 | 7:08 PM

Ock the day that they start charging by the pound is the day I start taking the train (God Forbid) What use to cost something like $59.00 with Delta Shuttle (round trip)back and forth to LGA now cost $174.00. We are not talking back in the stone age, just a few short years ago.

shanniesdad
Jun 4, 2008 | 9:28 PM

With the price of fuel going through the roof, it only makes sense that airlines would have to charge more. If charging Hefty Harry more to fly than a thinner person is a way to cover costs, go for it. Be honest: the heavier the person, the more fuel it takes to fly them. You'd expect to pay for extra baggage, right? Well a heavy person is carrying his extra baggage around the waist. I am not slim but I have been on a number of flights with a heavy person and trying to squeeze around them or them squeeze by you is nuts. It costs more to mail a heavy package, so just look at it as people paying to mail themselves.

Xantun read my blog view my photos
Jun 4, 2008 | 9:28 PM

Ock, have you lost your mind, man? Just wait though...If they try implementing this, it won't be long before someone who's morbidly obese contacts the ACLU to sue whichever airline they try to fly on for discrimination.

Yes, fuel increases are bad. But, so is ticking off the passengers. Although, if you piss everyone off, you won't have many people on a plane, and therefore will need less fuel. Hmm.

AmandaD
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:29 PM

This is absolutely ridiculous. We have privacy acts for a reason!! Are the airlines exempt?? I guess it's okay to force a passenger with body issues (anorexia, bulemia, and binge eaters) on a scale....What are people thinking!!!

Patmurraymom
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:29 PM

Personally, I weighed a lot less before I had kids, Now I'm afraid to get on the scale.
I would like to take a vacation w/my husband, while my Mom watches the kids, the first time in 8 years, and I can tell you, if I have to get weighed in, I'll opt for another form of transportation.
I already have low self-esteem--I don't need the airlines to rub it in-I'll get back to my fighting form-but I'll never fly again if they ticket by weight!!~!
P.M. Oxford, 01540

UmmKhai
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:32 PM

I think it is about time that more airlines implement this policy - the fact is that the high gas prices does not affect just drivers, what is an airline to do? And it is a fact that it costs more to transport bigger people! You see it in news reports, tips to burn less gas in your car: carry less cargo in your vehicle.

If this is not a motivator to get big people to control their weight, I don't know what is. I think this is a necessary move, and so what if people say they would boycott? They'd be back, and enough people would still travel anyway.

Chip read my blog view my photos
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:33 PM

I'll need a freakin' second mortgage....

lilacs67
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:44 PM

this is discrimination!! what if you were pregnant,but the person next to you is skinny as a rail,i think that a seat should cost per seat,not per pound.what about the people who travel that have glandular problems,that a health problem not a "gas" problem. we pay for more but we are getting less and less.it's distgusting what this world is turning into,money hungry thieves at the pumps and the skies!! i think now is a great time for the train travel to come up with some really great summer travel packages!! LOL

Carra
Jun 4, 2008 | 10:48 PM

Mark, This is crazy! The next thing you know, the cab drivers will try to pull out a scale to weigh their passengers as well. This gas thing has gone way out of control.

4xamom
Jun 5, 2008 | 12:13 AM

Great idea. I'm sick of obese people spilling over into my seat because they don't fit. I recently had my 4th child and I make a conscious effort to eat healthy. More people should do the same. Hopefully policies like these will motivate people to put down the cookies.

Skychick
Jun 5, 2008 | 3:48 AM

Sorry folks!Welcome to the new "Airline Travel" of America. The days of going to Florida roundtrip for $209.00 will soon be long gone.Get used to it. It's not the fault of the airlines they need to develop these bizarre tactics to cut corners, go ask congress what the story is. Do you realize how much it would cost the airlines to change the configuration of their fleets? Besides, some Americans could use another incentive to lose a few pounds! If you can't handle it, try taking the Bus! I'm not sure if it will be as pleasurable,but give it a shot. It angers me when travelers who are not educated in the industry try to point fingers at the airlines(CEO's, exec's), for increasing costs. The airlines don't increase costs as a personal vendetta toward their customers,they do it in order to stay afloat. Without customers,there would be no airline, without the funds to pay for fuel, there would be no flights.

AlongtheCharles read my blog view my photos
Jun 5, 2008 | 8:15 AM

I don't see a problem with it. And I weigh well over 200 pounds. Perhaps they could create some different weight and price ranges so it wouldn't be a direct price per pound situation. That would make things run smoother.
I mean, what will they do, have a scale at the airline to verify the price you paid for your ticket? What if you lost or gained a few pounds between the time you bought your ticket and the time you boarded the plane.
Other than ironing out those logistics, I don't see what the big deal is.

Mouse-mom
Jun 5, 2008 | 8:21 AM

OCK,

#1 It is discrimination & invasion of privacy. I wont be happy with this.

#2 If you think it will only affect very heavy passengers, you are so wrong. The will find a way to take the thin or average weight flyer as well. What about people with small kids. Do you really think they will let a child fly for like $50.00 bucks or under? Please.

Skychick as far as pleasurable flights, I travel a bit and I will go on record stating that the last few flights that I have been on have not been all that pleasurable due to irrate passengers and lax proffesionalism at the gates. Your last statements true but I would suggest that airlines think of not offending passengers. Last time I checked is was bad business to alienate your customers. I think there is only so much that passengers will put up with.

Sometimes businesses use the cost of gas as an excuse. Let me explain. I own a vacation spot in NH. It is seasonal,not open in the winter. We use very little gas to heat it for this reason and hardly cook in doors as we usually grill outside. Our gas bills are (were) almost non existant. You would think that this would be a good thing right? Aparently not. You see we were notified two years ago that because we don't use a specified amount of gas each year we will be charged an additional $80.00 every year we don't reach a certain usage. Of course that was 2 years ago I am sure the fee has increased. So much for energy conservation. Either way we will all be paying, it is not fuel costs but profit margins.

Happyg read my blog
Jun 5, 2008 | 10:02 AM

Wow. The "fatty-haters" are out in force. I'm guessing these are the same people who always say that all Americans are "equal". Southwest Airlines had the foresight to lock in at something like $55.00 a barrel. Maybe the airlines just need better management. They sell tickets by the seat, not the pound. Those calculations should have been done long before the first plane left the hanger. Hey fatty-haters, ever get hit with a "bony" elbow?

legendkiller34 read my blog
Jun 5, 2008 | 10:28 AM

Mark,
Maybe i'm missing something, but you said Airlines want to charge "BY THE POUND"
so let's see if a man/woman weighs
200lbs, and wants to go to california, then it would cost $200 dollars.

Skychick
Jun 5, 2008 | 10:57 AM

Right Mouse-mom!

That is exactly why the airlines have suffered severe profit loss, and the oil companys have reported record profits! It's all about profit margins. I agree with you a hudred percent! Those darn oil companies!

As a frequent flyer, I have never felt "alienated" by any means. I simply understand the business because I educated my self in the airline industry. Perhaps, you should do the same. I treat airline employees,(gate agents,flight attendants) with respect. They cant be too comfortable with all the changes that have been going on either (pay-cuts, fear of job loss) Believe me,when your patient,and you treat them like human beings, it will take you far. It's completely out of their control. They are just doing their job, like Im sure you do,Mouse-mom.

NellyBelle read my blog
Jun 5, 2008 | 11:27 AM

Funny how charging by the pound is seen as discrimination. It cuts both ways. I am petite and always manage to get the fattest person sat next to me. I lose up to 1/3 of my seat that I paid for because the fat person next to me spills over into my seat. So I am being discriminated against by always having the fat person sat next to me? I like the idea of redusing the seating on the planes to lessen the weight. I also think that carry on baggage needs to be more scrutinized. I am always amazed at the size and weight of these bags folks drag onto the plane. I would say 60% would not fit in the form that have right by the gate. I have never seen anyone ever check the size of a carry on in this form. I travel alot, mostly internationally, and always bring snacks with me whenever I fly. The food on the airlines is miserable anyway.

So, to the point....being as small as I am (under 120 #) I think paying by the weight is a fine idea.

ZoeBear
Jun 5, 2008 | 12:31 PM

OK, IF it was "Pay what you weigh"....then I have no problem with it, I am on the petite side, and never bring a lot of luggage.
But if it is additional fees for weight on top of the ticket price, then NO WAY.
Our government really needs to step ina nd do something about the rising gas prices, this is getting out of control.

Michelle00000032 read my blog
Jun 5, 2008 | 2:37 PM

OH MY GOD, I can not even believe what I am hearing, do you people realize that ALL PEOPLE have feelings? Heavy people, thin people...what is wrong with this picture??? Again I say that this world is getting so bad. I was heavy once, my highest being 293 lbs, I am 5'2" yeah that is FAT!!!!! I am now 123 lbs. I am still the same person and know that not ALL heavy people are heavy beccause they cant put down a BIG MAC!! There are so many reasons for overweight people that I can't list them all.

I am more upset with the comments made on this page because they are hurtful and mean, I think you all need to learn how to be NICE to one another.

Nelliebelle and Shaniesdad, maybe you could make your point without putting others down, HOW OLD ARE YOU 2?

Slunicko
Jun 5, 2008 | 3:16 PM

I have no problem with paying what I weigh. Mind you, I am a size 4 but weigh 140 due to my muscle tone. You pay gas in your vehicle according to how much your usage is -which largely depends on the weight the vehicle is carrying. So what's the difference? For all of the people out there that are weight sensitive, I'm sure a quick un-scale like device could be used to limit embarassment. I won't say that the airlines going a bit far with all of this, but paying by weight makes more sense to me than not feeding people a $2 sandwich and adding it to the price of the ticket.
And for the record, all the people saying they wouldn't fly can't be serious. We fly because usually we don't have the time to take a bus or train and it's just more efficient.
Lastly, I agree with ZoeBear- gas prices are out of control. Someone get Bush on the stand and make him explain to us how the average family will survive next winter or afford to drive to work every day? It's time to limit oil profits and lift some of the burden from the middle class.

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